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« on: August 11, 2012, 09:45:41 PM »

OK, now that I'm getting close to having everything I need for the swap - I am really really really really really tempted to put these one ton axles on my 109" Land Rover. Someone please talk me into it (or out of it)













At my new job my X will have to be a dedicated daily driver (I lost my company vehicle at my last job). SO any down time will be a major obstacle in my ability to get to work. Also if I break down on the trail I will wonder how I'll be getting to work. The X also weighs a ton, and is a full bodied rig - will have to worry about body damage. No so much on the LR. The LR is also a lot lighter, less top heavy. Its really a dilemma! On the other hand the 4 cylinder 2.25 LR motor and trans will have to go - so a whole new driveline will be installed - so there's that cost. On the plus side its a 1975 so no CA smog crap to worry about. Plus having a LR that would do this would be really impressive:

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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2012, 10:13:08 PM »

i would put them in this over the X
you have alot more to work with on this platform(or less if you want to look at it that way)
you can work on this at your own pace instead of rushing to get it done and lose work
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2012, 11:26:57 AM »

I like the more stock look of that LR and I wouldn't mess with it.

What's the story behind it?  I remember you've had it for a while but where'd you get it?
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2012, 09:06:49 PM »

I like the more stock look of that LR and I wouldn't mess with it.

What's the story behind it?  I remember you've had it for a while but where'd you get it?

I had it shipped here from England 7 years ago. I gotta say I dont see ever restoring it - too much money and it will never get that return on investment. I would rather have FUN with it as a dedicated rock crawler. Plus how many right hand drive rock crawlers do ya see? I am really leaning to doing it. Aaron is right it would be a LOT easier platform than a 5000 lb Xterra. No electronic bu11$$H!*, strong, cheap, tons of aftermarket, easy to work on. And I already own it - I can build it as I go and still have my X for DD and some fire roads, easy trails, getting groceries and picking up parts.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 04:03:54 PM »

In all honesty it makes more sense to build the rover...  Thumb-Up
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 07:36:40 PM »

The answer, IMHO, is to buy some cheap reliable beater and use that for work.  I know that's what I need to do; just haven't done it yet.  If you need 4x4 for work, then I'd take a look at this yota in Long Beach I found on CL but can't do right now.  There's a gray fairly clean 1985 yota extra cab (solid axle 4cyl efi) for $3500 obo that comes with a trailgear high steer setup there I'd otherwise be all over.  I think there's also a 1985 yota 4runner for around 2K that looks doable; check search tempest.

As someone whose offroad vehicle has been their primary driver -- and now commuter w/157K on the clock -- it takes a bit more planning when modding and preventative care to make it last.  Also, when wheeling, bear one simple axiom in mind -- don't phuc up.

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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2012, 11:27:38 PM »

I like the rover buggy!  no smog, simple, more options, more fun.  Nice thing with the right hand drive you can go with a chevy passenger drop drivetrain and it'll work with a three link nicely.  Just need to find a good donor chevy 4x4, 350sbc, th400, np205 with a np203 doubler.








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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 01:23:24 AM »

I like the rover buggy!  no smog, simple, more options, more fun.  Nice thing with the right hand drive you can go with a chevy passenger drop drivetrain and it'll work with a three link nicely.  Just need to find a good donor chevy 4x4, 350sbc, th400, np205 with a np203 doubler.

In other words, all you need is a sbc and this other long list of parts to go with it. but it will be cool.  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 06:33:38 AM »

not sure about the 17" of travel lol
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3179958710.html
or diesel
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/3203873377.html

the chevy trucks seem to be cheap out here
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 08:04:46 AM »

Well I guess I've been out voted.  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 11:46:12 AM »

indeed. haha 

ideally the donor needs a D60, 350 or 400 ci motor, th400 trans, np205 t case.  From what I read they do exist, thrid gen C/K mid 70's to mid 80s 1 ton 4x4's. 





 
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2012, 06:33:14 PM »

Well if you end up needing a pass drop d44 axle housing and axles, I might have one at the end of the week.  I'm probably going to be picking up a unit out of a 74 to harvest for the flat tops and such and you can just take the housing and axles.
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2012, 06:41:33 PM »

not sure about the 17" of travel lol
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3179958710.html
or diesel
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/3203873377.html

the chevy trucks seem to be cheap out here

lol it actually said 17 feet Smiley

Looking for an AT, Im old
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2012, 06:42:57 PM »

Well if you end up needing a pass drop d44 axle housing and axles, I might have one at the end of the week.  I'm probably going to be picking up a unit out of a 74 to harvest for the flat tops and such and you can just take the housing and axles.

Bob I have a d60 and a 14 bolt. I was going to retube the d60 anyway. We'll just retube it PS drop. Thanks though
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2012, 10:27:01 AM »

OK so this 05+ superduty axle has the biggest knuckles I've ever seen.  Apparently the inner C's and knuckles are bigger than the 99-04 superdutys and any other ball joint d60 knuckles for that matter.  So, that also means the unit beearings are bigger and specific to 05+, which means I can't use an aftermarket or machine the hub to fit a smaller 5.5" bolt circle.

I'm thinking have a jig CNC'd to drill the hubs myself to 6 on 6.5 (maybe $30-40)
cut the c's off and use a 9" housing ($400 from currie)
cut and re-spline the long side inner ($40)
new short side innner ($120 iir)
Third member with gears and detroit locker ($1000)
and the cost of the original axle ($350)

So that's under $2000.  That seems too cheap for a 9" 60

   
 
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2012, 05:59:18 PM »

it was about $1500 for the 3rd member alone using a detroit when i got mine built
strange case , daytona pinion support ,yoke , gears , and setup
you'll probably want  to get those knuckles machined for a high steer arm right?so you can sandwich the clevis or whatever they call it for full hydro between the stock arm and high steer arm
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2012, 11:59:46 PM »

who did you have machine your knuckle? 
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 06:15:48 AM »

i have solids ball joint knuckles for a 92 , i looked again and Sky manufacturing only does from 92-04 they dont list 05+
this guy is working on some but no set date yet
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=890475&highlight=dana+60+ball+joint+arm&page=10
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 08:01:45 PM »

Kenny these came today

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