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« on: July 15, 2012, 03:19:14 PM »

Im looking to buy axles. I found a guy with a '74 cherokee(sj). It has a dana 44 in the front and an AMC 20 in the rear. Is there any reason I shouldnt buy these two axles.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 03:31:49 PM »

pretty sure that is a passenger side drop axle
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 04:44:24 PM »

Damit it is. What front axle would you recomend?
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2012, 04:52:51 PM »

1980+ waggy axle
1974-78 ford high pinion 44
i personally like the high pinion better
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2012, 05:48:08 PM »

How wide is the high pinion axle, I would think that a full size truck axle would be a bit wider then ~70in.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2012, 05:53:14 PM »

the 74 f150 hp i had was 65-1/2 wms to wms or you could take the full size and cut it down to match the waggy width and use the waggy inner axle
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2012, 06:14:10 PM »

What does wms mean, sorry im new to this and don't get some of the terms.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 06:30:35 PM »

wheel mounting surface , basically the width of the axle the from the outside of the drivers side rotor to the passenger side rotor
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 06:49:45 PM »

so for example your rear axle is 59" wms to wms the waggy front is 60.5 wms to wms
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2012, 07:16:19 PM »

Ya i figured that out, i think that im just going to replace both front and rear with waggy axles so that i dont have to get into chopping axles downt. Ill post when i buy something.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2012, 06:27:25 PM »

Hey I was trying to think of a budget estimate, and while doing this i remembered that i have a slip yoke on the t-case. Do i need to buy a Calmini slip yoke kit, i know that its $300 so i was wondering if it would be cheaper and still effective to replace it with a longer single peice shaft.
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2012, 06:33:42 PM »

calmini doesn't make them anymore as far as i know
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2012, 06:44:23 PM »

They still list them on there site, would replacing it with a single piece shaft work, or do i even need to with that amount of lift?
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2012, 09:45:51 PM »

yeah alot of stuff is on their site but im pretty sure the sye and gears are on permanent back order
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 06:51:45 PM »

We'll probably never see SYE or Gears again like penski was saying.

They haven't had them in stock for over 2 years.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2012, 01:11:59 PM »

I'm looking at a 1990 xj wagoneer, this axle should be 60 inches wms to wms? It is a hundred mile drive which in Montana isnt bad but before I drive there I'd like to know what to expect. Also people have said that on vehicles with quadratrac the rear differential isn't in exactly in the center of the axle is that true, and if it is how much of a problem is it?
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2012, 02:45:00 PM »

An XJ is a cherokee. Are you looking at a Cherokee or a Wagoneer?
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2012, 03:10:11 PM »

Its a Wagoneer but its not the full sized grand wagoneer, its called an xj wagoneer. Here is the link to it  (   http://bozeman.craigslist.org/cto/3167323325.html  )
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2012, 04:14:21 PM »

Yeah, thats basically a cherokee.

You don't want that axle. It's a D30 up front which in inadequate.
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2012, 04:34:18 PM »

Ok trying to find a ten year range of one vehicle in a state with a third as many people as there are in San Diego, is almost impossible.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2012, 04:49:05 PM »

I've been hearing this a lot lately. people not being able to find Grand Wagoneer D44 axles.
 of course you can always build a Diamond  Grin

what size tires and what kind of wheeling/How hard to you plan on beating on this rig?
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2012, 04:56:25 PM »

seems to be a ton here in Az 
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2012, 09:08:26 PM »

As of now my truck has a rough country lift that uses uca's and a longer back shackle. The biggest problem i have is a lack of a locking differental, now i realize i could put a locker into it as it sits. But eventually I would want to do the axle swap, so instead of spending money on something that is going to be replaced in the end I would rather do it now. It however also has to be driveable everday on the road, so it wouldn't get the hell beat out of it. I was planning on building the truck to run 35's. I know 3 link is superior, but just for the moment I was planning on using leaf springs in the front just for simplicity. In the front I was thinking about using either a Arb air locker or one of these new electric lockers, and in the back i was going to use a detroit locker.

I decided to expand how far im searching into neghiboring states and i found a few grand waggys that would be good donors.

Thanks for all the help and info too.
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