Nissan Off Road & 4x4 Forum

Steevo said i couldnt leave until we do a trail run , so im hoping the truck is put together by then and the plan is to run john bull or something at big bear

who's in?

I'm sure I'll be in.

I'm in  :thumbup:

so what kinda of camping do we have up there to where we can have 7-10 rigs including my tow pig and trailer

Probably the yellow post sites in the Heartbar campground.  They are larger than those right near Big Bear lake and there are several next to each other so we can grab more than one.  It's first come first served and it's free.  To guarantee a spot someone would need to get up there on Friday by early afternoon.

so we would need someone there friday to camp saturday night? is it that bad up there

During the summer it fills up quickly.

OOoOOOoOO on a sunday! ill be down!!!! iw anna do Jbull so bad. we have unfinished business me and that trail, and im coming back with a better rig this time :gunfire:

yeah someone should really go grab a few sites.
Don't forget you need Forrest adventure passes to camp at Yellow Post Sites. ($5 / Day at the ranger station)
Also, I've been looking on 'n off for BLM land that is closer to big bear. Maybe along 3N14 where we can camp wherever we want and still be close to the BB trail system.

As far as trails go, I was thinking Motino wash. but it's not really near anything else.
a Really Really GOOD  :D day would be Dishpan Springs -> Holcomb Creek -> John  Bull (backwards) -> Jacoby Cyn or Gold Mtn. -> 20 min road back to camp.

AND... With any kind of luck we can do it in under 24 Hours   ;D :cover:  :cover:  :cover:  :cover:

so what is the plan gonna be?

yeah no 24 hour run this time , i got to drive home towing and i dont want Natalie driving , i dont think she would anyway lol
im good with just John Bull

I might try and join you guys.

Heartbar would be the easiest to get a trailer/multiple rigs in, up past the horse trailer area, but then it's a bit of a drive to JB.  There is a big yellow post on the forest side above the village that would work, plus it's got shade.  Actually, depending on how many folks go, I can think of another one that's way shaded and could work with a trailer given some minor finagling.

Don't remember the numbers, but can check.  If I do go I could probably go up early and snag a spot, but won't know until next week.

If you're driving way out here let's take it to the Hammers.   It'll be more fun and camping wouldn't be a problem.  Jason will bring out his Jeep buggy, too




   

ill probably just stick with Big Bear , ill definatly come back out there sometime to run the hammers just want to get  a feel for the truck with the new setup

Do you need your tow vehicle while camping?  You could always leave that truck and trailer on a residential street near the trail entrance.

id rather not leave the truck and trailer overnight some where , also probably gonna sleep in the back of the dodge

a few of the guys on thenewx may rent a cabin or house by the lake , so we may go in on that since it would be $50 a night per room for a 4bdr 

Sounds like a good idea

anyone want in on the deal? they are trying to figure out now which place to get
http://www.thenewx.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44512&page=3

I'm good with camping at the yellow post sites.
 :cheers:
They are all very close to each other or we can get a paid site that will accommodate more people. it's like $20 per site and 2 vehicles and $5 per each additional vehicles... or something like that.

I'd really like to camp. I'd pitch in for the big camp site or just go to a yellow post.

I'm thinking YP too.  I haven't camped in Big Bear in almost a year.

Ill be at the yellow post as well, where we goin steve? ha ha

lol.. wheel'n duh . :P :D

looks like i might be at the YP as well since i havent seen or got a pm from anyone about the cabin

these spots big enough for a truck and trailer?

the majority of them are, yes

ok found a camp site that has availability
i reserved 7 and steevo got 9
http://www.recreation.gov/camping/Crab_Flats_Ca/r/campsiteCalendar.do?page=calendar&search=site&contractCode=NRSO&parkId=70790&topTabIndex=CampingSpot

so we are still a go for gold mountain and john bull

We're Going Wheeling!
 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

awesome, the weekend i move to arizona for school.

maybe you and aaron can just switch houses...  :P :cover:

In order, from closest trail to furthest of the 4 we mentioned in the planning of this trip are holcomb creek, john bull, gold mtn, dishpan springs.

for those that use google earth here is a quick scribble on a route we can take to wheel holcomb creek and john bull.
I'm up for wheeling whatever but here is an idea.. http://ruggedrocks.com/stuff/Aug-28-2011-Nissan-Run.kmz

for those that don't want to run john bull, you can continue east on 3N16 after holcomb creek to run gold mtn.
gold mtn is not part of my google earth scribble.

tried to look at the map link you made it just came up and a bunch of non sense lettering. im up for wheeling all of those.in 1 day!

This link doesn't seem to work.

thanks. I fixed it  :cheers:

is anyone going up there just for sunday? i might just be doing that cuz im attending a friends party the night before where ill be consuming a vast amount of alcohol  :cheers:... which brings me to my next question, what time u guys gonna head out sunday morning for the trails? 

There are quite a few guys going up to just wheel for the day on sunday.
We haven't discussed a schedule yet, but I'm hoping we're on the trail by 8:30 or so.

Holcomb creek trail isn't very far at all from the camp ground so we'll probably just be leaving from there.

i wonder why the link didnt work  ??? worked on thenewx ,oh well its working now and looks like alot more spots got booked

also with the amount of rigs it looks we are gonna have id say 8:30 would be the latest

So realistically, what are you thinking of running?  Holcomb?  JB?

i dont know steve cant make up his mind lol

i like the idea of everyone run gold mountain then john bull or alternate for the moderate guys

thats a good idea, i think everyone can do gold mountain.

fine.. lets run holcomb creek at night  :D :hit: :cover:

Shoot, when I ran Holcomb last I had a hard enough time in the daylight.

bobby, was that before or after the fires? were you on 33's with a locker?
a lot of trail maintenance has been done there. the gardens are good fun but not crazy.

some vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaPQJztvcc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tro8kfmR7pI

also, this trip seems to be working out fairly well in terms of attendance..
and Rugged Rocks took it's first order on Aug. 27th 2006. which makes this trip dead on the 5th anniversary day. maybe we should do a big bear thing every year? ???

Like that idea, ill be attending as well

looks like there are gonna be lots of rigs , maybe close to 20  :D

After the fire, on a trail clean/eval run.  33s, but no lockers, and the work to adjust the water run hadn't been done yet so the middle garden was muddy.  It was challenging to say the least.  Haven't run it since it reopened.

Am having some front diff problems, so I'm on the fence for the run.  It's clunking really bad and the short stub axle actually pivots up and down some.  The crappy parts house cv with bad tolerances doesn't help the clunk either.  Bad enough to where it'll shift enough to cause an air leak in the diff collar.  I have the stuff to rebuild it but I just don't want to do it.  Sigh.

I wanna go! Probably can't tho...rig needs some lovin and I might be busy that Sunday. Anyone have some 37's I can borrow so I can go? haha  :cover: So are you guys gonna be there all weekend?

dude!, You've gotta go!
my tires are basically bald but they've one more day on the trail still left in 'em. and this is the day.  :thumbup:

We're camping saturday night and wheeling sunday.

im so down for a night run!

so for the rigs driving up sunday morning, are we meeting up at the camp site? or?

yes, I think it'll be bset to just meet up at the campsite at about 8:00a?
That shoul give us time to get a little organised nad head out at about 8:30 - 9.  but the earlier the better.


 8)
I was thinking the same thing.

so whats everyone gonna do for dinner?? you guys want to try and do a pot luck thing , hamburgers/hot dogs , or just bring your own thing

oh and what about firewood? i have the decking off the trailer i could cut up and throw in the dodge

Depends what time we get up there... if we leave late on sat i was just thinking about eating in town or eating on the way up, doing something simple for b-fast in the morning and packing a lunch.

but if we get up there early then yeah maybe we should just pitch in or something.

FireWood.. please everyone bring a little bit of firewood... NO NAILS OR SCREWS!  :thumbup:

yeah i guess it depends on how far along Kenny is on friday , i was hoping to get up there around 3 or 4

also if i tow my truck up there , are there any staging area's for the trails since check out at the campsite is 11am

Yeah that's not a problem.  Some of the graded roads are really wide and you can just leave it on the side.  Or worse case leave it in the parking lot at the discovery center for the day.

If not there, just down from that there's that boat launch area just down from it.  Lots of trucks and trailers there all day.

Also, you can ask permission over by the firestation at Fawnskin and leave it there.

this should be a good start for the fire , wood is dry and heavy so it looks like it will be a slow burn
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/P8249596.jpg)

outstanding!