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Title: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on April 02, 2010, 05:37:10 AM well decided i should go a different route instead of keeping the yota axle(not sure if ill have it for MOAB) , i went ahead and picked up a ford 9" housing got it all cleaned up and made an untraditional truss lol
i did it this way because im still running leafs in the back and didnt want to have worry about the getting the u-bolts to work with a traditional truss i shall call it , the slider truss :D (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P4014083.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P4014084.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P4014079.jpg) Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: BlackX on April 02, 2010, 08:11:49 AM Why are you ditching the Toyota axle?
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on April 02, 2010, 08:18:16 AM to better match the gears i have up front so i would have 5.38's and 5.42's vs 5.38's and 5.29's , also the inside of the yota axle housing is rusted because the guy i bought it from let water sit in it
i cleaned the inside of the housing as best as i could but not sure i trust the housing so it was either get a stock , aftermarket or go with a different setup also this will be full length with custom axle shafts made for 6x5.5 bolt pattern so i dont have to run adapters in the back Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on April 02, 2010, 06:08:39 PM then cleaned the axle up better today , plated the bottom of the axle with 1/4" and added a rear skid (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P4024096.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P4024098.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P4024100.jpg) Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: theking on April 02, 2010, 07:32:58 PM you gonna make it a full float?
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on April 02, 2010, 07:51:56 PM no , trying to do it on the cheap right now to get it in before Moab
35 spline 6x5.5 axle shafts with ford 8.8 rear disks 5.42's and detroit Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: theking on April 03, 2010, 12:35:04 AM You gonna run a Strange pro nod, hi9, or Currie center?
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on April 03, 2010, 09:21:48 AM im not sure the guy putting the axle together is doin that stuff , he does some of the work on KOH rigs
letzroll is the guys shop here in mesa Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on April 05, 2010, 09:53:10 PM strange pro nod with datona pinion support and pinion guard
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: theking on April 05, 2010, 09:59:04 PM Ah yes. I just stumbled on his online shop looking at PSC steering stuff.
Yah, you need the big bearing gear case for 35 spline. Them gear cases are a little pricey. That's what deterred me from a 9". But, it should be a nice light and strong setup. Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on April 05, 2010, 10:07:36 PM all said and done ill have about $1500 into the axle which isnt to bad completly built
the housing and tubing i got for $63 got new spring pads and i may be able to re-use the shock mounts off the yota axle Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: helix66 on May 15, 2010, 12:23:57 PM Do you have to worry about the axle tubes warping when welding the truss and the skid?
What's the full float about? The only thing I remember was that you could pull your axle shafts out w/o taking everything apart, and it has something to do with the bearings. Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: alexrex20 on May 17, 2010, 06:23:26 PM a full float basically uses a stub shaft that engages the axle, which then engages the differential. the weight of the vehicle is supported by the stub shaft/hub, so if you bust an axle, you can remove the axle and still drive home.
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on May 17, 2010, 09:20:50 PM yep what he said
as far as welding , yeah i welded a little section let it cool and went side to side to avoid warping the housing hopefully it worked haha Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 13, 2010, 10:51:52 AM few pics of the housing mocked up along with a cross member for a possible 4 link or just an anti-wrap bar
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6135977.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6135979.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6135981.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6135984.jpg) Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: theking on June 14, 2010, 03:23:17 AM I noticed you inboarded the lower shock mounts. :cover:
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 14, 2010, 07:40:17 AM does it help to have them on the outside of the springs? pretty much all shock are setup inboard arent they , mine have been setup up this way pretty much since i had the truck and no issues
if i need to i could build shock hoops and put them on the outside of the frame and springs Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: theking on June 14, 2010, 10:43:50 AM It does make a difference in handling with them mounted as wider. My shocks are mounted like that, but I wish I could push them all the way to the tires. That would also help limit wheel travel. But, there's just no room, though.
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 14, 2010, 10:46:28 AM cool , i got some more tubing
ill do a mock up and see what you think Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 14, 2010, 12:50:37 PM so this is about how much room i would have if i ran the 1.5" spacers in the back
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6145993.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6145995.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6145996.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6145999.jpg) Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 14, 2010, 03:34:41 PM one side done
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/P6146000.jpg) Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: theking on June 14, 2010, 08:15:13 PM Looks like it will clear the frame with them upsidedown. I would set the uptravel as a bump stop to keep the tire from rubbing the fender. Bad thing about leafs is you can't flex it to test fit stuff.
I bet it will handle much better on the street, now. Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 14, 2010, 08:23:38 PM there is 2" between the shock and frame and 4" between the inside of the tire and the shock if i run 1.5" spacers
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: theking on June 15, 2010, 01:11:16 AM 2" is close. But, it all depends how much flex you get with those leafs. My 3 link has a high roll center, so the shock moves in a lot on the drooped side. That setup would never clear the frame on mine at full flex. But, leafs have a low roll center, so you might be ok. Def. run the spacers and go flex it out. lol
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: SteeevO on June 15, 2010, 10:43:25 AM :thumbup:
But.. i think you're going to have to mount them the right way. I wouldn't run them upside down. Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 15, 2010, 11:42:30 AM yeah i just threw them on there , was really paying attention to the position haha
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: helix66 on June 15, 2010, 11:45:15 PM It's funny cause that's the "right" way to mount the older style shocks, shaft side up.
Looks like a nice setup! Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: SteeevO on June 16, 2010, 11:01:35 AM ah ok lol cool beans
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 16, 2010, 06:43:36 PM honesty it probably doesnt make that big of a difference , ive ran them both ways and they performed the same
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: SteeevO on June 16, 2010, 09:51:27 PM hmm.. thats an interesting conclusion. they shouldn't ride the same upside down. ???
Title: Re: goin with a ford 9" Post by: penski61 on June 16, 2010, 10:09:32 PM well got the axle pretty much finished up , added a top truss and just need to touch up some spots with paint , hopefully will have it installed sunday
in the pic it looks like below the tube is filled in but its not , ill get some better pics tomorrow (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6166015.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6166014.jpg) (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z219/penski61/sas/P6166013.jpg) |